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 Post subject: How do I remove clutch main spring?
PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:47 pm 
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So part of my clutch arrives tomorrow and I’ll have to remove the bug 1-1/2 nut off to get it off. The problem is is that I don’t have a 1-1/2 inch socket and want to remove the nut without one and not breaking something or getting hurt in the process. Any help would be appreciated.

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 Post subject: Re: How do I remove clutch main spring?
PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 9:19 pm 
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So part of my clutch arrives tomorrow and I’ll have to remove the bug 1-1/2 nut off to get it off. The problem is is that I don’t have a 1-1/2 inch socket and want to remove the nut without one and not breaking something or getting hurt in the process. Any help would be appreciated.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-3tDLyLUJM

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 Post subject: Re: How do I remove clutch main spring?
PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 10:17 pm 
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Does that video talk about how to remove the nut without an impact?

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 Post subject: Re: How do I remove clutch main spring?
PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2019 4:19 am 
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I use an impact. But I've also used a strap wrench with a ratchet. Its a lot easier with an impact.

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 Post subject: Re: How do I remove clutch main spring?
PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2019 9:55 am 
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I use an impact. But I've also used a strap wrench with a ratchet. Its a lot easier with an impact.


This. This right here. So much easier with an impact. I don't know your financial situation, but spending some money on a decent cordless impact will make your life easier. I keep mine in the truck in case of the need to change a tire, or whatever. Very handy.

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 Post subject: Re: How do I remove clutch main spring?
PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:09 am 
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I have to agree about having an impact wrench. You can pick up inexpensive electric ones that do the job if cordless or air driven is too expensive.

I bought an entire set of oversized sockets for about $100. These allow me work the CVT and hubs of my buggies but also allow me to adjust my trailer hitch or the switch hitch ball size going to the truck.

You do not need to buy the expensive tools if this is just your hobby and not your daily line of work. If you have a Tool Town or Harbor Freight type store, you can build up your hobby tool box and the tools will last for occasional use. I have China tools going back over 30 years that still work fine.

Not having the correct tool for some jobs will damage parts, make the work harder or injure you. There are people that go through life without tools, but those are the ones that pay to have things fixed for them or replace an item rather than fix it.

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 Post subject: Re: How do I remove clutch main spring?
PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:13 am 
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I do have one and it is amazing. It is just a $40 walmart impact but it works perfectly fine and there's never been a nut or bolt it couldn't get off. This impact is by far the best tool I have ever bought by a mile. I just wanted to know if I can save a bit and not have to buy a 1-1/2 socket but its not that bad I found them to be in the $10-$15 so not really that expensive. One question I have about 250cc clutches is can I use a yellow spring from a 150cc on a 250cc? If so would it be an improvement or would it just be useless to swap it? Thanks

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 Post subject: Re: How do I remove clutch main spring?
PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2019 12:34 pm 
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The springs and variator weights are different between the 150 and 250 machines.

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 Post subject: Re: How do I remove clutch main spring?
PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:05 pm 
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Oh ok

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 Post subject: Re: How do I remove clutch main spring?
PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2019 11:03 pm 
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Got the clutch part today and went ahead and bought an impact socket and drove the buggy a bit but the battery was basically dead (had accidentally left the lights on) so I have that charging but other than that everything has worked

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 Post subject: Re: How do I remove clutch main spring?
PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 6:58 pm 
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Okay as expected the clutch was made cheaply and broke quite quickly. I'm wondering if any of y'all know if I can get a clutch or "clutch pad assembly" (the thing I bought before just made of better quality) I'm hoping to spend under $75 but I don't want to low ball and get something that will break quick. Anyways let me know if you know of anything good. Thanks

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 Post subject: Re: How do I remove clutch main spring?
PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 10:16 pm 
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What do you mean the clutch was cheaply made and it broke quickly?
Clutches dont go bad that fast unless something else is desperately bad!

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 Post subject: Re: How do I remove clutch main spring?
PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 10:51 pm 
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Idk just really bad metal because the rpm/clutch engagement springs are breaking through the metal hole (one already did) plus I just don’t trust this clutch on any sort of excursion that is on a trail.

I was thinking about this clutch: https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre ... 1060655729

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 Post subject: Re: How do I remove clutch main spring?
PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 11:22 pm 
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Is it this one?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/REAR-CLUTCH-DR ... 1284!US!-1

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 Post subject: Re: How do I remove clutch main spring?
PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 11:33 pm 
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I don’t know if the clutch itself is the same but the listing I found was $68

Sounded like that link didn’t work, here is a different link to the same listing: https://www.ebay.com/itm/250CC-COMPLETE ... 1060655729

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 Post subject: Re: How do I remove clutch main spring?
PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 12:18 am 
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You mixed CN250 parts into your CFmoto. You really need to buy from the trusted dealer list to until you are more familiar with your buggy. Buying off unknown sources and having things fail or damage more parts will cost you more and cause a lot of frustration.

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 Post subject: Re: How do I remove clutch main spring?
PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:08 am 
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The one I had bought was a clutch shoe for $30 but turned out to not work. The problem is that those are like $150 and I don’t really have that much to spend on a clutch. I supposed I could buy it after a while but I’m trying to see if there is a cheaper option that could work just as good. Like I’m going to make sure all the measurements fit my original clutch before I even think about buying the $68 clutch

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 Post subject: Re: How do I remove clutch main spring?
PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:56 am 
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Since you're into gambling, you could always roll the dice on this one.

http://online.mortch.com/MICF250-5036-C ... ch-Carrier

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 Post subject: Re: How do I remove clutch main spring?
PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 12:13 pm 
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Correct me if I'm wrong Pete, but can't you mate a CN250 clutch and bell to the CFMoto pulley?

Never done it, but thought I had read some folks doing something similar. The CN250 clutch and bell are smaller in diameter than the CFMoto, no?

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 Post subject: Re: How do I remove clutch main spring?
PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 1:32 pm 
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Here's the full story. On your order thread, you post the link and PGH and me warn you. Your statement was true but wrong. You were right saying BPNW have the right clutch and the guy on eBay state the same. BPNW did leave a notice on the description if you read it all. The guy on eBay, sad to say, PROBABLY copied on BPNW but unlike BPNW, he didn't read and create the mistake.

The problem started in the manual itself, parts number get mix up sometime and trust me on that I cross reference a ton of it. Here's how the parts number work, 172MM mean 1 cylinder 72 mm. 172MM-040005 is the piston. Now you will also see after 172mm-A, 172mm-B, 172mm-C, this is the version of the engine. If you see only 172MM-040005, mean it work on ALL engine. If you see, 172MM-B-053000, this is the cvt belt and will only work to this specific engine or down the list. You will also see, 152MI-013008, Bolt M6x35. They don't create new part number for the same thing over and over, mean this bolt work on a 152MI and also the 172MM. A bolt is a bolt !!!

You should get the drift by now and will be able to figure it out. But there's also a lots of mistake in those manuals !!! Wrong parts number, duplicate parts number. Download the manual for the Hammerhead 250 GTS / SS and you will see 2 reduction gears, Fig 15 and also Fig 20. One is the chain drive and the other one the output shaft come out in the back. Now, check the parts numbers, all the same until the output, chain / output shaft.

This is how I knew it was the wrong clutch and I warned you. In this case it's not too expensive and this is why I didn't push too hard. Yes it was cheap but now as PGH said, you might have damage other things. This is the problem. you try to fix your machine but sometime cheap don't worth it, you can't drive the machine. Don't think I knew that from the beginning, I did the same mistakes and paid for it too.

As for what sockman said, take the clutch and bell and put it on the CF might work. I have the exact same question as him before but never tried it as I killed my HH 250 SS at 4500 miles, the crank split in half at the variator level.

As for the clutch you posted and other members did, I didn't see the right one yet. 132mm is CN and 150mm is CF. I will let you know if I see your post and see you have the right one. I am not in this business for the money, I am the guy tired of paying for the wrong parts. In 2009, I was looking for parts for my own machine and got the wrong one multiple times. This is why I started that. I didn't drive for a full summer because of 1 part !!!! This is also why I tell people, you have the right part(s) or the wrong one. I just want people to drive their machine.

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