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 Post subject: Re: Here we go again Joyner Polaris 500 swap
PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2014 6:45 pm 
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Great work as always i finally got internet service .... i hope to start a rebuild thread soon


Is DGM finally coming back to life?

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 Post subject: Re: Here we go again Joyner Polaris 500 swap
PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2014 7:03 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Here we go again Joyner Polaris 500 swap
PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2014 9:19 pm 
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Made a little progress today. Started work on the adapters for my wheels and did some assembly on the engine. And thanks to Gmanlv I have some nice shocks for the rear and broke down and bought some for the front as well. I did pick up a set of Polaris wheels and tires fairly reasonable so will have to live with them for now.


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 Post subject: Re: Here we go again Joyner Polaris 500 swap
PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2014 9:22 pm 
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Here are the front wheels and my shocks. Hopefully this will be my best riding Joyner.


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 Post subject: Re: Here we go again Joyner Polaris 500 swap
PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2014 9:58 pm 
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Hi Papa,a thumper i like that.How tight is the piston to wall clearence and what is the ring gap,is the rod bearing plain or roller.Ghost.

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 Post subject: Re: Here we go again Joyner Polaris 500 swap
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Ghost, it has a roller rod. I didn't mic the piston to cylinder. Normally I would have but in this case the cylinder and rings were set up by the shop that did the machining. I figured what would be the purpose. It is what it is going to be.

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 Post subject: Re: Here we go again Joyner Polaris 500 swap
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nice machine work paparich.....I saw Greg's shocks on sale on MBN and wanted to get them just because they were such a good deal even tho I don't have a buggy for them to go on ....haaaaaa....glad you picked them up ....keep up the good work sir

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 Post subject: Re: Here we go again Joyner Polaris 500 swap
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Hi PaPa,i understand,just was wondering how tight they were holding it to.Ghost

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 Post subject: Re: Here we go again Joyner Polaris 500 swap
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Hi PaPa,i understand,just was wondering how tight they were holding it to.Ghost


I did slip it back out of the cylinder to double check ring positioning and to just have a look see. I will say there was not much slop there. So if I had to guess I would say it is not much more than .003.

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 Post subject: Re: Here we go again Joyner Polaris 500 swap
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Hi Papa,the last motor i built i had the shop set it up at .004,i did the ring end gap per Wisco specs.It was tight and i know being a two cylinder made it seem even tighter.I oiled and turned it over by hand for a couple of days.I was surprised it started on its own.It could be the hone,i like the stones,most shops are using the new ball hone.Ghost

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 Post subject: Re: Here we go again Joyner Polaris 500 swap
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It is stiff but what I was gauging was how much rock there was in the piston as I was putting it back in the cylinder. They didn't use a very course hone and it does have a good cross hatch pattern. I guess you can get that pattern with a ball hone. I have never used one myself so I don't know for fact.

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 Post subject: Re: Here we go again Joyner Polaris 500 swap
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It will be fine Papa,theres a lot of guys that know a lot more than i do using the ball hones with no problems.I like to break in motor with light wt. Rotella its reasonable,i buy it at Walmart and its one of the few oils left on the market with Zinc in it.Ghost

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 Post subject: Re: Here we go again Joyner Polaris 500 swap
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I was going to talk to the guy that did the machine work to see what he recommends for break in oil. I know there are oils out there specifically for break in. I know the last couple of bbk I put in I have had problems getting the rings to seat. I usually use regular oil for the break in and then switch to synthetic. I do use a cam lube on the lobes to aid in it's break in. These engines don' carry a lot of oil pressure. I don't like to let mine idle for extended periods of time for that reason. And I try to keep the idle up as much as possible just to the point that I can still get the transmission in gear.

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Ive always used non detergent motor oil for break in

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 Post subject: Re: Here we go again Joyner Polaris 500 swap
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Hi i do not recommend this on todays new and very tight engines.My father was a truck mechanic first and then later in life he became a machinist.His break in oil on new engines was non detergent oil 4 quarts and 1 quart auto-trans fluid. He would run it about 200 miles.I wonder what the Polaris break in oil and procedures are for brand new vehicles. Ghost

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I have been running reg oil in the last ones I have been doing. I may have been draining them too soon before going to synthetic. The last one seems to have finally seated in, it just took a while to do it.

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Well got nothing done on the buggy today. It was our anniversary, 42 years. So spent time with my sweetheart all day.

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Hi Papa,CONGRATS Ghost

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