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I received the 130 main jet yesterday from Blade, so I went to work immediately.
After installing the UNI filter, redneck intake mod, along with the DG exhaust, the engine didn't idle as smooth as it did stock and it popped out the exhaust on decel (a little lean), and had a slight hesitation off idle. No stalling or anything like that, just not as smooth as I would like. I started with the needle by shimming it with an extra washer the same thickness as the stock washer. This should richen the fuel circuit from about 1/4 - 3/4 throttle. I had one left over from a motorcycle carb kit. Doing this should clean up the mid throttle pop and smooth the power. I then drilled the cap covering the fuel screw. I didn't drill it totally out, just enough to gain access with a very small screwdriver to make adjustments. Leaving the outer ring of the cap in place will prevent the fuel screw from backing out. The best idle was about 2 3/4 turns out, which was almost backed out against what was left of the cap. I then proceeded to install the main jet.
All is well now. The engine purrs like a kitten at idle, no bogs or hesitations when you stomp the throttle open and there is a definite increase in power with the total package.
Next on the chopping block is a set of 10g rollers, or 12g sliders. .....The mods will probably end there. _________________ Tomberlin Crossfire 150R
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Could you explain the shimming the needle thing? I'm pretty new to motor mechanics, I just perform basic maintenance, remove/ replace, and basic fabrication things. Owning these buggies has taught me a lot in a short period of time. Any pictures would be helpful, also. Thanks
Greg _________________ 07 Sand Viper, Uni w/145,Hit CL,Predator Shocks,Wht tq Spg, HP CL,HP CDI,
Dune 150 w/CN250
Arctic cat front, Blaster rear shocks
22x10x11 lightfoots rear
Malossi clutch
aux lites
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| GMANLV wrote: |
Could you explain the shimming the needle thing? I'm pretty new to motor mechanics, I just perform basic maintenance, remove/ replace, and basic fabrication things. Owning these buggies has taught me a lot in a short period of time. Any pictures would be helpful, also. Thanks
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I shimmed to needle to compensate for the extra air & fuel that can now be pushed through the carb since I opened up the intake and the exhaust. By raising the needle position, the needle is allowing more fuel to enter the carb earlier (richer). The needle is tapered and when you raise it's position, the taper becomes smaller, thus allowing more fuel to enter the carb.
I'll try my best to take pictures to help out.
For a better understanding, take a look at the link below. Key in on the Needle paragraphs.
Carb Tuning
CAUTION: this article is for a carb on a 2-stroke engine. So DISREGARD THE FUEL/AIR SCREW ADJUSTMENT PARAGRAPHS. THEY ARE BASS AKWARDS FROM YOUR CARB. Your 4-stroke fuel screw is for metering the fuel into the pilot system. In a 2-stroke, there is an AIR screw, which meters the amount of AIR into the pilot system. The pilot adjustments on each carb will produce reversed results. _________________ Tomberlin Crossfire 150R
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I took it back apart for pictures. I am not sure that ALL GY6 carbs are the same; so if you own a kart other than a Crossfire, your carb could look different.
Two screws and the top of the carb is off. Watch out for the spring.
Carefully pulled the slide out to reveal the needle. Easy, don't tear the rubber diaphragm.
I'm not sure what this is called, but it holds the needle in the slide, and has a small spring to allow a little movement for the needle. I have never seen a needle "holder" like this before. I has 3 cuts that align it when you place it back into the slide, then it snaps in place.
Here is the needle with Two shims/washers. The smaller one is the stock washer, and the wider one is the one I had left over from another carb kit. If you try this, be sure the shim you use will fit all the way down into the slide cavity. Some washers are too wide, and that will really screw up your tuning.
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Now for gaining access to the PILOT FUEL SCREW.
The fuel screw is hard to get to without taking the carb off. If you decide to drill the cap for access, you will have to take the carb off. Here are a couple pictures showing you where to fuel screw is located. I have already drilled it out as you can see. I did not take a picture of the cap before drilling it out. It's just an aluminum cap that is flush with the carb.
Here is a view from the top of the carb.
You can see it easier from the drivers side view of the carb.
Hope this helps? _________________ Tomberlin Crossfire 150R
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Great job on the walk through, as well as good pix, I am sure this will help, I know I have learned something. Tim _________________ Turbo Turtle(for the little man)
XYKD260-1,
Stock; air in the tires and wind in my face!. Everything else has been Simacated!
Active member of MBRA and NEBA.
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Good Stuff!!! Shouldn't this be a sticky, It will help a lot of buggy owners fine tune their carbs. You get an "A+". Thanks.
Greg _________________ 07 Sand Viper, Uni w/145,Hit CL,Predator Shocks,Wht tq Spg, HP CL,HP CDI,
Dune 150 w/CN250
Arctic cat front, Blaster rear shocks
22x10x11 lightfoots rear
Malossi clutch
aux lites
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| GMANLV wrote: |
Good Stuff!!! Shouldn't this be a sticky, It will help a lot of buggy owners fine tune their carbs. You get an "A+". Thanks.
Greg |
Team913 gives this an A++
Thanks for the great post  _________________ DRIVE IT LIKE YOU STOLE IT!!!!!!!!!
DAZON 150 SINGLE SEAT
2.5inch rear wheel spacers
1.5inch front wheel spacers
UNI, 130jet, BIGE built intake tube, custom built exhaust, HO coil, adjustable CDI, iridium plug
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Those are some great pictures. Good job! Nice to hear you are getting closer to buggy nirvana...LOL _________________ _________________
2 Polaris RZRs & a Dune 150. Ridge Runner--Gone. Yerfdog 3206--Gone (but you never forget your 1st!).
Buggy pictures, mods, ideas, how-to's:
http://tinyurl.com/8ltm8
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Thanks for the positive comments!
I just ordered 10g rollers this evening, so maybe by the weekend we'll get them installed and see if there is any difference to be had. The stock rollers may be 10g. I'm not sure what comes stock in the Crossfire -R, but for $8 I won't be out too much.
There is a difference you can feel with the mods so far. It gets up and goes quicker than it did when we first purchased it; and the shocks are a major factor in ride quality. The frame settles down much quicker in the rough with 'real' shocks. _________________ Tomberlin Crossfire 150R
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You could do what I did... Take one roller to the local 7/11 / wawa/ Utotem/ pigly wigly..... and have them weight it for you, if it is a 10gr roller it'll weight ..I think it was 3.5 oz,, some one here confirmed my math, so post back, let us know..
Tim _________________ Turbo Turtle(for the little man)
XYKD260-1,
Stock; air in the tires and wind in my face!. Everything else has been Simacated!
Active member of MBRA and NEBA.
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