I've been wnadering this a while and maybe there is another thread, idk. I want to install a tach onto my Dazon, any good info/insight on how to do this proficiently? I want to take off my "dash" as it is now and put a custom Dash with Tach, Water temp, Fuel Gauge and Speedometer. Any helpful hints/info is greatly appreciated.
James _________________ Real Posts: 500
2006 Dazon 250S W/RP
HNDA 400ex 16.5" Super Front Shocks
18 1/2" rear Sno Pro Fox Shocks(W/res)
White Bros pipe
32mm pmper carb/140 Jet
K&N filter on carb
Iridium plug
Dr. Pulley clutch
15g sliders
ultra white lights
You can get everything but the fuel guage with the Trail Tech Vapor for 100-150 bucks depending on the temp sensor (air cooled/water cooled) and options that you want.
I was planing on having 4 seperate gauges but I'm interesting im this. I've heard of it before and I see it has a plug-in, how exactly does the wiring work for stock stuff to the Vapor? i see on the webpage that most are 3/4" radiator hose input, one (for the Honda Rancher) had a 12mm head temp sense, I have a connector for the head temp but not quite sure if it's 12mm or not, does any know how big the temp sense is??
James _________________ Real Posts: 500
2006 Dazon 250S W/RP
HNDA 400ex 16.5" Super Front Shocks
18 1/2" rear Sno Pro Fox Shocks(W/res)
White Bros pipe
32mm pmper carb/140 Jet
K&N filter on carb
Iridium plug
Dr. Pulley clutch
15g sliders
ultra white lights
Bump for myself so I can find this reference later _________________ Spyder 250 (KTR-250W, or GK-29)
Blue (Polini) main Spring
17g Sliders
White clutch springs
UNI filter / 130 Jet
Do you have one of these installed? I have visited the manufacturers web site, and they have specialized models listed for various ATV's/ Motorcycles. How did you determine which one to get? _________________ Spyder 250 (KTR-250W, or GK-29)
Blue (Polini) main Spring
17g Sliders
White clutch springs
UNI filter / 130 Jet
the one that works best on most buggy's is for a yamaha raptor 700. the sending unit for water cooled goes in the rad hose, for air cooled you will need a sensor that goes on the spark plug. I have one and they are cool. _________________ Blade buggies,Carter buggy's, ams (manco) , joyner, parts for almost anything
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I was planing on having 4 seperate gauges but I'm interesting im this. I've heard of it before and I see it has a plug-in, how exactly does the wiring work for stock stuff to the Vapor? i see on the webpage that most are 3/4" radiator hose input, one (for the Honda Rancher) had a 12mm head temp sense, I have a connector for the head temp but not quite sure if it's 12mm or not, does any know how big the temp sense is??
James
James,
I have been prowling around on the trail tech homepage. It looks like the head temperature sensor is meant for air cooled engines, it is basically a small temperature sensor mounted on a copper ring that gets installed under a bolt on the head somewhere. The 12mm part is the diameter of the ring, so you know what size bolt it will fit over, kind of like a washer would.
I am more concerned now with getting cables long enough to reach, since I have a large buggy, and most ATVs and motorcycles, the sensor isn't that far from the dashboard. I think I will call their customer service department and ask questions. _________________ Spyder 250 (KTR-250W, or GK-29)
Blue (Polini) main Spring
17g Sliders
White clutch springs
UNI filter / 130 Jet
BigE, Why am I surprised... I should have just asked you first, lol
I just got off the phone with a technician at trail tech, he recommended one of the kits for the side-by-sides, and specifically mentioned the Polaris Ranger kit, or the Kawasaki Teryx kit.
He also told me that if needed, they have cable extension kits in various lengths for all the sensors except the speedo. They can custom-make a speedo cable for you if you need it, but I think if I run it to the front drivers-side brake disc, I shouldn't have too much trouble.
The Ranger and Teryx kits both come with 3/4 radiator hose inserts for temperature. He also mentioned the Rhino kit, which comes with a 1" hose insert.
This seems like a REALLY nice guage setup. _________________ Spyder 250 (KTR-250W, or GK-29)
Blue (Polini) main Spring
17g Sliders
White clutch springs
UNI filter / 130 Jet
I installed 2. One on a gy6 and the other on the 250. Simple install, though a little time consuming. Blade was selling them at one time, and if memory serves they are the same price or less as ordering direct. I would check w/ them to see which one they are using. As far as I know none of the kits "really" fit. You have to cut the wires and splice a piece in the middle to make them long enough. I just used cheap speaker wire, a little solder and some shrink tube. Easiest way to do the speedo is to drill a hole in the sprocket and JB weld the magnet in. Use strap metal to fab a bracket for the pick up. If you have shaft drive I'd glue it to the shaft close to the trans case.
They sell extension cords for the wire leads but they are expensive for what you get and still may not be long enough. To determine which temp sensor you'll need to the size of teh radiator hose coming OUT of the engine. Should be going from the thermostat housing to the top of the radiator, and is probably 3/4" ID hose. _________________ 05 Jehm Adventure Buggy 250cc, Torque Spring, 22.5gr Rollers, Modified Roll Cage, K&N, 21x7x10 & 22x11x10 Trac Star Radials, Vapor, Body Panels, 40T Spkt
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2003 Jehm Blazer 125cc, Vapor
10 gram rollers, 20x10x8 Razr's,
34 tooth sprocket, 9pk cooler
Thinking of installing a vapor on my HH250SS. Just a couple of questions...
Regarding the Temp Sensor: Will the sensor that comes in the kit fit where the current overtemp sensor is in the thermostat housing? If so, I can use the existing wiring & just hook it straight up. This will save me having to cut any coolant hoses. (here's hoping).
Speedo hookup: Seeing as the HH's already have a speedo, I presume that I can just hook the existing sensor wiring up as well?
Lastly, I've heard that these units don't like being powered from the Buggy's internal power generation circuit (too erratic) & it is best to hook them up to the battery to get a more reliable, stable power input. Personally, I wouldn't like powering directly from the battery, but rather from the ignition switch when in the "RUN" position so that power is removed when I switch off.
Is my thinking somewhere in the ball park on this? Anyone with a HH250SS installed one of these with good results?
Cheers guys,
Beetle.[/b] _________________ Cheers,
Beetle
'07 Twister Hammerhead 250SS. Uni filter on carb, 132 Main jet, Blue Polini Torque Spring, 19gm Sliders, gutted exhaust, custom dash, Dr Pulley HiT Clutch, Iridium plug.