The Joyner 650 may be a little wider than you like on ATV trails but handles well on 4x4 trails. I like technical trails and the 650 is geared a little high for me, so I also have a low geared 150cc. The 150cc will climb any hill that the tires can push it up, but it will not make the momentum of a larger buggy. The Joyner 250 may surprise you once you tune the CVT. It has a dual range gearbox to give you low end and high range for speed.
Its a tough call.... Maybe I should go back to my original choice of spending 14k on RZR
NOT.
That Joyner is sweet!
The problem I have is that there are no dealers around here for me to drive ANY of these models (accept the hammerhead). I do appericate all the knowledge and willing to help the "new guy"....
I understand your apprehension of buying one of these buggies sight unseen. Update your profile with your location so other buggy owners near you can chime in. Perhaps for the cost of fuel and lunch, some the locals will take you with them and let you try out their rigs.
The dealers on this site have been great and support through this forum many times has more collective knowledge than the manufacturer. _________________ 07 Joyner SandSpider 650
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I got the Joyner 650 SS last Fall. They are 62" width. Not bad. The only thing is 1st gear a little tall for slow rock climbing or whatever. I do not have that so far. Did the carb/header and it runs great. Nice ride. A little heavy, but gives nice feel at higher speeds. See Glade at Edgepower Sports. I live in nothern Indiana and working with Glade is almost as easy as walking acorss the street.
Update your profile with your location so other buggy owners near you can chime in. Perhaps for the cost of fuel and lunch, some the locals will take you with them and let you try out their rigs.
How do you like those RZRs? I drove them several times. They move out fairly well.... Problem is, to get them the way you want them you could buy a damn rubicon for the price.
The rzrs are nice but other than 4 wheel drive I think you will be much happier with the 650 ss from Joyner. I have had several competitions with rzrs and the only thing they do better than the 650ss is rock climbing at low speeds. The suspention on the joyner is miles ahead of the rzr unless you add the long traval kit to the rzr They will stay right with the rzr on desert or sand runs or even jeep trails. And with a turbo on the 650 they will even blow them away on top speed runs. All for half the cost of the rzr or a quarter the cost if you buy used. As a matter of fact I have a 1000cc superkart and a 650cc turbo Joyner for less than the cost of a stock rzr.
Keep in mind this is all in AZ where trail width is not a concern and we have miles of trails as wide as you need. I can see were the stock width of the rzr may come in handy for the cramped trails back east. Van _________________ 2005 Joyner 650 Turbo
2006 LJ Tech 1000
2006 sunl 1000
2005 Corvair powered 4 seater
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200x trike
200s trike
1915 VW high jumper
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The rzrs are nice but other than 4 wheel drive I think you will be much happier with the 650 ss from Joyner. I have had several competitions with rzrs and the only thing they do better than the 650ss is rock climbing at low speeds. The suspention on the joyner is miles ahead of the rzr unless you add the long traval kit to the rzr They will stay right with the rzr on desert or sand runs or even jeep trails. And with a turbo on the 650 they will even blow them away on top speed runs. All for half the cost of the rzr or a quarter the cost if you buy used. As a matter of fact I have a 1000cc superkart and a 650cc turbo Joyner for less than the cost of a stock rzr.
Keep in mind this is all in AZ where trail width is not a concern and we have miles of trails as wide as you need. I can see were the stock width of the rzr may come in handy for the cramped trails back east. Van
Thanks for the info. Def looking into the Joyners.
Man....... Joyner Trooper 4x4 Now that is what I am talkin' about! They just get released in 08 or something? That thing is badass.