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firebird81
Post Tue Mar 25, 2008 12:25 pm 
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I'll get an amp meter on her this weekend if I get her back. I see that your model has an 11 pole stator and I'm pretty sure mine is the same, but who knows. What we're basically looking for is how much overhead we have to work with. Drywalljohnny had some video up where he had switched from stock lights to a couple of larger lights mounted on top of the buggy, so that may be an option, as well. Perhaps re-wiring the hi/lo beams to two separate sets of lights? I'm also curious as to what size battery is too large....
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Post Tue Mar 25, 2008 1:07 pm 
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If the 11-pole stator in your GTR is similar to the one I have in my Yerf and your regulator has two outputs, you will be able to run a pair of 55w lights off each regulator output plus running lights (about 230-240w). I am using a 12Ah battery without any problems.
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Post Tue Mar 25, 2008 1:21 pm 
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I know the engines are of a SYM Quadlander ATV.
Found this info for it (see pic also):

Battery
Capacity 12V12Ah
Charging rate 1.4A / 5 ~ 10 hours (standard)
14A / 0.5 hour (fast charging)
Leak current < 1mA
Charging current 1.2 A / 1500rpm
Control voltage in charging 14.5 + 0.5 V / 1500rpm

Maybe this can help.

Stock bulbs are 35/35W

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Post Tue Mar 25, 2008 1:29 pm 
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Jackster wrote:
The engines are of a SYM Quadlander ATV.
Found this info for it:

Charging system
Description Specification
Battery
Capacity 12V12Ah
Charging rate 1.4A / 5 ~ 10 hours (standard)
14A / 0.5 hour (fast charging)
Leak current < 1mA
Charging current 1.2 A / 1500rpm
Control voltage in charging 14.5 + 0.5 V / 1500rpm

Maybe this can help.

Stock bulbs are 35/35W

Jackster

If you could post a wiring diagram or link for your GTR, I could tell you whether you have the dual output regualor.

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Post Tue Mar 25, 2008 1:36 pm 
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Thanks...
See attachement...

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You have a dual output rectifier in your GTR.

The black wire output from the rectifier is unregulated but rectified (DC) and powers most of the existing lighting only when the engine is running. The red wire output from the regulator is regulated and rectified and provides charge to the battery.

Replace your existing main head lamps with better lights using 55w bulbs and run new ground returns to your frame or battery.

Run your auxiliary pair of lights off the battery supply (that is charged by the second rectifier output) and again run good return grounds to your battery.

Each pair of lights should have its own fuse and switch control to allow isolation and load control when needed. The auxiliary lights should only be used at speed and turned off when idling to prevent excessive battery drain.

Check out this thread to see the Yerf:

http://www.buggynews.com/topic12218-50.html

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Post Tue Mar 25, 2008 8:06 pm 
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phgruby,

A very clear explanation!
Should be no problem to setup the extra wiring.
Running them of the battery should prevent overloading the stator

Still would like to know how much the amp output really is.
Just to know how much is left for charging the battery when I switch on the extra 55watt lights. The numbers I found don't tell me much (only at idle). Would hate to get stuck somewhere with a dead battery.

Many thanks,

Jackster

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Post Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:49 pm 
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Geez I love this site, You all do the research legwork 4 me as I sit back & learn !!! Need to get off my a$$ soon, & get more lites wired in before Memorial Day ride in Moses Lake,Wa.
Jackster will U be making How to Video (w/girls in bikinis narrating Cool )on this lighting topic as well ?? LOL

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Post Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:10 pm 
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Got to find me a pair of great head lights first Wink
Of the quiet type... LOL

Found some possible candidates...
http://www.funbuggy.nl/modellenkalender.htm
(site is in Dutch, but hey... some things are universal, right?)

Sorry to get a bit of topic with this one...

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Oh man Jackster; Very nice headlites on several of these models (of buggies) Cool . Do new Buggies from the Netherlands, come w/these as OEM accessories ?? I did not get a Priscilla upgrade with my Carter/Talon 150 Exclamation

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(site is in Dutch, but hey... some things are universal, right?)
Most definetly !! & I dont feel this is off topic, so if come across other Buggies that come w/these type accessories, By all means link us any results your exhaustive research may turn up !!! Very Happy
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