Update: I haven't been able to find these connectors in raw form to build a bridging harness. If I don't find something, I will sacrifice an engine harness with these connectors to get my custom harness.
In the mean time I have been running the buggy with 11-pole stator connected to the stock regulator and harness with no problems and noticeably brighter lights.
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Did you check Newark (www.newark.com)?
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'04 KPX Xterro: pumper carb, oil cooling, 10g rollers, Junkies pipe, Uni
'05 Blade 150 DX: 4 Valve head, 10g rollers, East Side pipe, Uni
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I want a plug and play. So if it's around 90 watts, what wattage does the average set of lights run you pick up at WM or an auto parts store?
If I understand this getting the 8-pole will just run a good set of lights? Nothing else? I ride mainly at night. Could you run 3? I thought of buying 2 sets. 3 to the front and 1 to the back. Run a switch to go from the extra front light to the rear so I can see to back up. That way I'd always be running 3 at a time. Will that work or stick with 2 at a time. I could put a set each way and switch from front to back.
I hate to spend almost $200 on the 11-pole seeing I don't ride that much. At least not yet.
I want a plug and play. So if it's around 90 watts, what wattage does the average set of lights run you pick up at WM or an auto parts store?
If I understand this getting the 8-pole will just run a good set of lights? Nothing else? I ride mainly at night. Could you run 3? I thought of buying 2 sets. 3 to the front and 1 to the back. Run a switch to go from the extra front light to the rear so I can see to back up. That way I'd always be running 3 at a time. Will that work or stick with 2 at a time. I could put a set each way and switch from front to back.
I hate to spend almost $200 on the 11-pole seeing I don't ride that much. At least not yet.
Both the 11-pole and 8-pole stators plug directly in to your existing harness. However you need to upgrade the rectifier to get full use of the 11-pole output.
I do not know anyone else who has tested their product to work on our buggies. You can take a chance on an e-bay seller or purchase a product that will bolt in with out trouble... _________________ 08 Joyner SandViper 250
07 Joyner SandSpider 650
06 Tank Urban Touring 150SE
04 Yerf-Dog Spiderbox 4209 GX150 (SOLD)
04 Yerf-Dog Spiderbox 3206 GX150
81 Honda Passport C70B
I had no luck in finding the connectors I needed. I had a burned up wiring harness from my spare Howhit GY6, so I custom wired the high output rectifier and stator to this harness.
Going over the wiring diagrams and specifications, there is no reason to retain the stock rectifier. There is no way to fit the 3x larger rectifier to the same location, so mounted it to the top of the electrical box.
I will try to attach a PDF of the wiring setup if this forum allows. There is one change to this diagram - I added a 20A inline fuse to the regulated 12VDC output going to the frame wiring harness and lights. The unregulated 12VDC goes to the battery and is fused with the original engine harness.
did you have to change the flywheel also? the eight pole I carry needs the eight pole flywheel. _________________ Blade buggies,Carter buggy's, ams (manco) , joyner, parts for almost anything
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Since the flywheel has more than one magnet, it must be changed with the stator to keep the poles from canceling each other. Prior to the 8 and 11 pole stators being released by Buggy Depot, Travis I discussed what effects would result with mismatched stators and flywheels.
If there was only one magnet on the flywheel, only the pole with the magnet passing would create current at any one time. This would create AC, but power output would be low. To maximize efficiency most stators have multiple poles that are wired to phases. Now you can have one magnet per phase to increase output. The 6-pole and 8-pole stators are two phase while the 11-pole is three phase. In theory the 8-pole and 6-pole flywheels should be interchangeable if the stator diameter was the same. _________________ 08 Joyner SandViper 250
07 Joyner SandSpider 650
06 Tank Urban Touring 150SE
04 Yerf-Dog Spiderbox 4209 GX150 (SOLD)
04 Yerf-Dog Spiderbox 3206 GX150
81 Honda Passport C70B
Since the flywheel has more than one magnet, it must be changed with the stator to keep the poles from canceling each other. Prior to the 8 and 11 pole stators being released by Buggy Depot, Travis I discussed what effects would result with mismatched stators and flywheels.
If there was only one magnet on the flywheel, only the pole with the magnet passing would create current at any one time. This would create AC, but power output would be low. To maximize efficiency most stators have multiple poles that are wired to phases. Now you can have one magnet per phase to increase output. The 6-pole and 8-pole stators are two phase while the 11-pole is three phase. In theory the 8-pole and 6-pole flywheels should be interchangeable if the stator diameter was the same.
So to clarify,
The 11-pole stator requires a new 11-pole (3 magnet) flywheel be installed as well, correct? _________________ Chris Dierkens
'04 Yerf-Dog 3206 10g Rollers, 1500# Spring, Reverse, SuperTrapp, Uni
'04 KPX Xterro: pumper carb, oil cooling, 10g rollers, Junkies pipe, Uni
'05 Blade 150 DX: 4 Valve head, 10g rollers, East Side pipe, Uni
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The 8-pole stator comes with a flywheel due to slightly different dimensions. The 11-pole stator also comes with a flywheel due functionality and fit. _________________ 08 Joyner SandViper 250
07 Joyner SandSpider 650
06 Tank Urban Touring 150SE
04 Yerf-Dog Spiderbox 4209 GX150 (SOLD)
04 Yerf-Dog Spiderbox 3206 GX150
81 Honda Passport C70B
FYI: I tested a couple of 100w bulbs in the stock light housings they were shining bright enough to see the beams in daylight. All was going great until I slowed down - At that point the bulbs put out so much heat that the housings started to soften without the 40 degree air cooling them.
The lesson: Don't put 100w bulbs in unless you do not plan on slowing down!
I will be testing 55w bulbs in the stock housings this week and will put up a light bar above the cage for the switched brighter lights. _________________ 08 Joyner SandViper 250
07 Joyner SandSpider 650
06 Tank Urban Touring 150SE
04 Yerf-Dog Spiderbox 4209 GX150 (SOLD)
04 Yerf-Dog Spiderbox 3206 GX150
81 Honda Passport C70B
FYI: I tested a couple of 100w bulbs in the stock light housings they were shining bright enough to see the beams in daylight. All was going great until I slowed down - At that point the bulbs put out so much heat that the housings started to soften without the 40 degree air cooling them.
The lesson: Don't put 100w bulbs in unless you do not plan on slowing down!
I will be testing 55w bulbs in the stock housings this week and will put up a light bar above the cage for the switched brighter lights.
That little sticker that says "Install 35w Max Bulb" must have been missing....
You could however turn it into a mobile EasyBake Oven. _________________ Chris Dierkens
'04 Yerf-Dog 3206 10g Rollers, 1500# Spring, Reverse, SuperTrapp, Uni
'04 KPX Xterro: pumper carb, oil cooling, 10g rollers, Junkies pipe, Uni
'05 Blade 150 DX: 4 Valve head, 10g rollers, East Side pipe, Uni
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That way I'd always be running 3 at a time. Will that work or stick with 2 at a time. I could put a set each way and switch from front to back.
