What if I put in a engine from a 1999 R6? It is liquid cooled and like 600cc. I am sure it may take some work / mods ( I have all the tools and experience ). I am just curious. People say use only a liquid cooled engine and I think this engine ( that can be gotten for cheap ) would work very well.
That or I have a possible 400cc Snowmobile engine for about $400 ( I have to buy the whole snowmobile ). The whole parts bike R6 is like $800, but the R6 has 100hp compared to the 57 of the snowmobile.
Is there enough room in the rear of a 250 Joyner for a 600cc bike motor? The Joyner is more tightly packaged back there than most. Do you have in mind a shifter kart with sprockets & chain, no reverse, etc?
The sled engine might be an easier install if you use the whole CVT assembly. Still no reverse but at least you won't have to deal with clutches & levers. If it's a 2-stroke I'd think hard on how you intend to use the buggy. The 2-smoke doesn't like just sitting and idling or crawling along a slow tight trail but would be a blast as a race buggy where you're WOT much of the time. _________________ _________________
2 Polaris RZRs & a Dune 150. Ridge Runner--Gone. Yerfdog 3206--Gone (but you never forget your 1st!).
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You should check out http://minibuggy.net/ if you haven't already. There's loads of information there on drivetrain possibilities. You'll probably get some crap from some of them about re-powering a china buggy instead of a ground-up scratch-built machine but if you ignore those you'll find some guys happy to help. _________________ _________________
2 Polaris RZRs & a Dune 150. Ridge Runner--Gone. Yerfdog 3206--Gone (but you never forget your 1st!).
Buggy pictures, mods, ideas, how-to's:
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Didn't you just get this like two days ago and you're already talking about an engine swap?
I got the impression from your post the other day that the 250 was a good fit (power wise) for the buggy.
I'm only asking because I'm in the market for a new buggy and was looking at the Joyners and I thought they would be a bit too heavy for a 250. They do seem to have very good build quality. Am I correct in assuming that? _________________ '07 Crossfire 150R - sold
02 Honda 400 EX
"It's hard to soar like an eagle when you're flying with a bunch of turkeys."
lol...I did just get it two days ago. I am nowhere near ready to start the swap. I was just thinking for a solid winter project, this may be good.
The power is fun as hell. Me and my girl (total about 300lbs) get around in it very nicely. It's a solid buggy. You can tell build quality far surpasses most 250s.
Have you had a chance to take it on any trails yet?
Where are you located, what kind of terrain is in your area?
Does the width seem like it will be a problem? _________________ '07 Crossfire 150R - sold
02 Honda 400 EX
"It's hard to soar like an eagle when you're flying with a bunch of turkeys."
if you can find a decent fam from a small car, you can use a snowmobile engine easily, with a lot less worries that many have about it... I am considering running a 530 sled engine from the early 80s, rated at a scan 44 hp, but that 44 hp is a heck of a lot better than the 10 the buggy came with!!! lol.. I have to start from scratch, including harness, fuel tank, jack shaft, sprockets, chain, belts, and all that... no reverse is a bugger, but I dont think id be able to keep the rubber on the tires, let alone all the donuts i'll be doing if I finish the project, will reverse be necessary???? lol... i do a lot of trail riding, but I hate being the slug on the trails!!! i get toasted every time I go out locally by my neighbor on his modded out blaster... he has a weisco piston kit, carb, all that, and he just beats the pants off of me on the long straight aways and even on some of the tight turns and such... I never seem to catch up unless he slows down major, or stops!!!!
Anyway, i love the idea of an R6, and I wish I had one lying around to do the swap... i am not crazy about shifting in the mini-buggy, but if you are good with a clutch, get on it!!!!
The simplest way to do the clutch thing is install the clutch handle on the shifter. so you squeeze shifter pull a gear and let go of shifter/clutch.
I used to own a ninja 600R and handled the power on the bike well.. they have alot of power yes.... but in my buggy i think i would kill myself if i did what i do with 70 more horse behind me. Cvt would make the cart have safer more controllable power in my opinion. If you do trail riding without too many bumps/jumps giver on the 600 but my oh my if you dont have long straights...i think its recipe for disaster. I could just imagine hitting a jump at 110 mph oh boy....that cage would be a coffin:( If you go with that choice i would get a smaller rear sprocket to somewhat "tame" the power on tap. The CVt would make more predictable power as well i would think.
Even a 100 hp sled engine would be safer then a 100 hp shifter cart in my opinion.
I love power dont get me wrong i like the over the top power i was looking at a skidoo 670 transplant for a winter project but im going to wait to test out these new performance products coming down the pipe more then likely first. _________________ Darren,
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Too much power is almost enough!
I have a Joyner 250 and i think if any of these carts can take a engine upgrade this is the cart. That said It's between 700lb-800lbs, so you better be thinking brake upgrades, and suspension. Here in Vegas getting a complete bike is not a problem, but I'm not willing to part with reverse.
Greg _________________ 07 Sand Viper, Uni w/145,Hit CL,Predator Shocks,Wht tq Spg, HP CL,HP CDI,
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