Its been to smokey with wildfires and too hot 110 degrees to take buggy out lately. Maybe tonight. I have been implementing, experimenting and selling a Water4Gas Device for cars and i want to find some dudes or dudettes to test on a buggy or two or three or four.
My best results have been on my buddies 2000 Dodge Durango 8 cyl. He went from 11MPG to 17MPG.
The device creates Hydrogen Gas which is added to air/fuel mixture in engine. Result is better combustion, cleaner emmissions and better MPG. I think a buggie would have more power with this device??? any thoughts.
You're talking about that tube that uses electrolysis to make gas right? Problem with that is that it uses the battery for the reaction. Most smaller buggies have limited stators on them. It would seem to me that there would be a chance of always wearing out the battery. Also, the fact that these are offroad vehicles......I haven't seen one of those tubes that looks durable enough to take the abuse. It serves the purpose of increasing mpg, not power, so I fail to see how it would benefit an offroad vehicle to begin with. _________________ Carter Brothers gtr 300
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What do you mean by hydrogen gas? ie. Hydrogen generator by using electrolysis.
What does this unit look like?
What are the specs on how much energy it uses vs. gain?
Could we see some pics?
more details would be necessary if you truly want people to test it
If mpg is the only gain from this machine than i don't really see it's effectiveness in buggys. Right now i can ride for 2 entire days, all day long on one tank of gas ~ 2.5 gallons. I have never calculated it but the mpg has to be around 50. At 50mph a 150cc scooter gets around 95mpg.
Yes. The device creates Brown's Gas thru Electrolysis and I believe this is a simple and practical design for us common folk. I believe it would give a improvement in power for a buggy.
Heres what it looks like. I just put two devices on my buddies 2000 Dodge Intrepid.
I see a power gain in my 2004 Nissan Sentra and 1999 Ford Taurus, as well as a mpg gain. This device is running on some dudes street bikes.
basically it uses the battery to create the gas, which is then injected into the carb. Two problems for buggies---our stators probably wouldn't be able to handle battery drain and these systems are always homemade and pretty rinky dink, so I doubt it could be made durable enough for offroad abuse. From what I've read, most scientific types doubt the effectiveness of these things, because it doesn't create energy, it just converts it, so the battery is basically contributing energy to the operation of the energy. On the other hand is a growing number of diy'ers who swear that these things really improve mileage. Look up the power tube on google. _________________ Carter Brothers gtr 300
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red malossi main spring
malossi delta clutch with red springs installed
not yet installed:
mrp exhaust
mrp 30mm carb
k&n filter
it takes more energy to make the hydrogen then you get out of it. This is the problem in hydrogen fuel cells today. _________________ yerf-dog 3209
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it takes more energy to make the hydrogen then you get out of it. This is the problem in hydrogen fuel cells today.
well, this isn't a hydrogen fuel cell. It's the opposite. And technically, its making brown's gas. On a full-sized car it seems to work because the alternator is able to replenish the battery without putting excessive strain on the motor. This is where the scientific types argued bs. They claim it is impossible and should actually cause mileage to drop, however a growing number of people are swearing by it. I wonder what it does to engine life.... _________________ Carter Brothers gtr 300
18g sliders
red malossi main spring
malossi delta clutch with red springs installed
not yet installed:
mrp exhaust
mrp 30mm carb
k&n filter
it takes more energy to make the hydrogen then you get out of it. This is the problem in hydrogen fuel cells today.
well, this isn't a hydrogen fuel cell. It's the opposite. And technically, its making brown's gas. On a full-sized car it seems to work because the alternator is able to replenish the battery without putting excessive strain on the motor. This is where the scientific types argued bs. They claim it is impossible and should actually cause mileage to drop, however a growing number of people are swearing by it. I wonder what it does to engine life....
Brown's gas is just hydrogen and oxygen gas mixed together. It still takes the same amount energy to split the molecular bonds whether you separate the gases or not. To separate enough gas to make a difference requires more energy than is produced.
Since the container of water is lasting quite a while between refills, confirms that not much gas is produced. So how can such little amounts of gas make a significant difference in power or mileage? _________________ 08 Joyner SandViper 250
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In the 2nd and 3rd picture that you posted you have your containers next to the battery. The gas when accumulated can be very dangerous (explosive). If you’re installing these you may want to find a location away from the battery and make sure you’re not using an always on hot source. Always use a source that is neutral when the key is turned off.
By the way what are you using to control voltage to the O2 sensor?
Good luck with you testing.
Tom _________________ DN150 and Reaction
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Here is all the documentation that I have used to learn and build the device I showed you. Within these e-books you should find a diagram of how to build and or install the HHO
Device on your cars or buggies. I paid for these e-books but I would be glad if you all spread this information to others interested in this technology. I believe this is the only way we will be able to overcome our energy situation and get out from under the control of greedy oil and other corporations who "do not" have our best interests in mind as individuals or as a society.
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