This Could Be of Intrest to all Buggy Rides

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I just pulled this information off of Wolflake1's web site. We may want to chime in on this!

The public Hearing on HB 4323 is Wednesday, April 16 2008 at 1:00 pm at the Farnam Building, Lansing, Michigan. Any questions you may have, contact Dick Ranny, Cooordinator, MMRC @ 989-469-2405
If you are in favor or not in favor of allowing ORV's and ATV's to ride on the shoulders of the Counties roads please email the county clerk and the Lake County commissioners and let them know. Their email is clerk@co.lake.mi.us . Also email Senator Patty Birkholtz and tell her you are in favor or not in favor of HB 4323 to allow ORV and ATV's to ride on the shoulders of the counties roads. senpbirkholz@senate.michigan.gov . Give them your name and address and a return email. And if possible do this on a weekly basis. the people that don't want it to pass are going through the effort to stop it, so we need to put up an effort to get this passed. Tell your family and friends to do the same and we can make a difference.

For those that don't know most of the trails in the UP of Michigan have access to county roads to travel from trail to trail. They have been trying to get the same thing done for the trails in Lake County but have been running into blockage by the county commission that is still in the frame of mind that all ATV's are distructive and dangerous. Maybe if we can get enough riders to write they'll take a more serious look at granting access to these roads.

You could virtually connect about 250 miles of ATV Trails/Routes by being able to legally travel a few mile on the shoulder of county roads.

Thanks for the Help

Jerry

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Hi Jerry and thank you for taking the time to do this. Most people just sit and complain that they can't ride where they used to and don't do anything to add to where we can ride. thank you for your effort. Tim www.wolflakemotel.com

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I'll chime in and say it's the greatest thing ever to be able to ride the shoulder of a road to get from one trail to another. It helps extend your ride--without having to backtrack. It helps if you get lost. It helps if you find your trail blocked (possibly by a tree hugger!) And it helps to to get gas when the option is a very long, but legal, walk Laughing

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I'll just make Jerry's post a little easier to email the commissioners and Senator Birkholz
The public Hearing on HB 4323 is Wednesday, April 16 2008 at 1:00 pm at the Farnam Building, Lansing, Michigan. Any questions you may have, contact Dick Ranny, Cooordinator, MMRC @ 989-469-2405
If you are in favor or not in favor of allowing ORV's and ATV's to ride on the shoulders of the Counties roads please email the Lake County commissioners and let them know. Their email is clerk@co.lake.mi.us . Tell them that the email is for the commissioners. Also email Senator Patty Birkholz (Head of the Senate Natural Resources and Environmental Committee) and tell her you are in favor or not in favor of HB 4323 to allow ORV and ATV's to ride on the shoulders of the counties roads. Her email is senpbirkholz@senate.michigan.gov . Give them your name and address and a return email. And if possible do this on a weekly basis. The people that don't want it to pass are going through the effort to stop it, so we need to put up an effort to get this passed. Tell your family and friends to do the same and we can make a difference.

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Hey, my letters are off and running lets see what kind of response comes back. Tim if I know it will do something great I'll stir the pot! Laughing

Jerry

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A question for anyone who might know: Why is Senator Birkholtz taking the lead on this issue? Her district is in the southern half of the state and isn't affected at all by this bill.

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Your guess is as good as mine, Tim (Wolflake1) might be able to answer that he's been dealing with this issue for a while. I'm just hoping we can everybody to write these people and get them to change their way of thinking. It would be great to operate like the snowmobilers.

Jerry

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Guy, I take that last message back She's the Senate Chairperson for Natural Resources. What the Web will do for ya! Laughing

Jerry

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You are right Jerry. Also if everyone could take a minute to call their senator and tell them how you feel. All districts have to call, even the southern counties. Here is their phone numbers. This passed the house of representatives with a vote of 107 to 0 over a year ago and the senate has been sitting on it ever since. Michigan needs a boost and so does Lake County, which is the poorest county in the state, and I believe Michigan maybe the poorest state now. (Thank you Jenny) So why not do this and help the economy?
Tim www.wolflakemotel.com
CALL YOUR SENATOR- again- IN SUPPORT OF HB4323 as presented from the House, to allow ORV’s to ride on the shoulders of the counties roads.
Senator Jason Allen, (R) District 37, (517) 373- 2413, toll free 866 525-5637
Senator Glenn Anderson, (D) District 6, (517) 373-1707, toll free 866 262-7306
Senator Jim Barcia, (D) District 31, (517) 373-1777, toll free 866 305-2131
Senator Ray Basham, (D) District 8, (517) 373-7800, toll free Fax 517 373-9310
Senator Patricia Birkholz, (R) District 24, (517) 373-1734, toll free 888 28-PATTY
Senator Michael Bishop, (R) District 12, (517) 373-2417, toll free 877 9-BISHOP
Senator Liz Brater, (D) District 18, (517) 373-2406, toll free 866 305-0318
Senator Cameron Brown, (R) District 16, (517) 373-5932, toll free 866 305-0316
Senator Nancy Cassis, (R) District 15, (517) 373-1758, toll free 888 38-NANCY
Senator Deborah Cherry, (D) District 26, (517) 373-1636, toll free, 866 305-2126
Senator Irma Coleman-Clark, (D) District 3, (517) 373-0990, toll free 866 747-7803
Senator Hansen Clarke, (D) District 1, (517) 373-7346, toll free 877 252-7537
Senator Alan Cropsey, (R) District 33, (517) 373-3760, toll free 866 305-2133
Senator Valde Garcia, (R) District 22, (517) 373-2420, toll free 800 516-0026
Senator Thomas M. George, (R) District 20, (517) 373-0793, toll free 866 305-2120
Senator Jud Gilbert, (R) District 25, (517) 373-7708, toll free 877 445-2378
Senator John Gleason, (D) District 27, (517) 373-0142, toll free 866 268-2914
Senator Bill Hardiman, (R) District 29, (517) 373-1801, toll free 866 305-2129
Senator Tupac A. Hunter, (D) District 5, (517) 373-7888, toll free 866 262-7305
Senator Gilda Jacobs, (D) District 14, (517) 373-7888, toll free 888 937-4453
Senator Mark C. Jansen, (R) District 28, (517) 373-0797, toll free 866 305-2128<P><P>
Senator Ron Jelinek, (R) District 21, (517) 373-6960, toll free 866 395-2121<P><P>
Senator Roger Kahn MD,(R) District 32, (517) 373-1760, toll free 866 305-2132
Senator Wayne Kuipers, (R) District 30, (517) 373-6920, toll free 877 KUIPERS
Senator Michelle A. McManus, (R) District 35,(517) 373-8360, toll free 866 305-2135
Senator Dennis Olshove, (D) District 9, (517) 373-8360, Fax: (517) 373-9230
Senator Pappageorge, (R) District 13, (517) 373-2523, toll free 877 SEN-13TH
Senator Bruce Patterson, (R) District 7, (517) 373-7350, toll free 866 262-7307
Senator Mike Prussi, (D) District 38, (517) 373-7840, toll free 866 305-2038
Senator Randy Richardville, (R) District 17, (517) 373-3543, toll free 866 556-7917
Senator Alan Sanborn, (R) District 11, (517) 373-7670, toll free 888 353-ALAN
Senator Mark H. Schauer, (D) District 19, (517) 373-2426, toll free 888 962-6275
Senator Martha G. Scott, (D) District 2, (517) 373-7748, toll free 800 SCOTT-78
Senator Tony Stamas, (R)District 36, (517) 373-7946, toll free 866 305-2136
Senator Michael Switalski, (D) District 10, (517) 373-7315, toll free 866 303-0110
Senator Buzz Thomas, (D) District 4, (517) 373-7918, toll free 866 348-6304
Senator Gerald Van Woerkom, (R) District 34,(517) 373-1635, toll free 866 305-2134
Senator Gretchen Whitmer, (D) District 23, (517) 373-1734, Fax: 517 373-5397
Please find your Senator on the list and give them a polite call, you want dates on both the public hearing and the committee vote of HB 4323. Call regular until you get a satisfactory answer. Always give your full name and address. Contact any ORV users you know in Eaton, Allegan and Barry counties and have them politely contact Senator Birkholz and let her know, they want to see HB 4323 passed as presented from the House. Hand written letters, phone calls or e-mails. Again, give your address.
Those of you in Southeastern Michigan and other metro areas of Michigan, your involvement is a must to get this Bill passed! Districts 1-27 of the 38 Michigan Senate Districts are in Wayne, Macomb, Oakland, Lapeer and Genesee counties. Districts 22-23 are Shiawassee, Livingston and Ingham counties. Kent county has both 28-29. Takes 20 votes to pass, but first, we must get a hearing and a passing vote in the Senate Natural Resources and Environmental Affairs Committee.
Your efforts can make it all happen!

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I wish U all luck in your mission !! Dont think that your Senate commiteee much cares what a guy in Washington State has to say about this, but U guys sure have my support !! Similar measures have tryed; & often failed here in the Pacific NW. Push towards good old fashioned common sense w/your senators & Reps., (what would U have us do, while still being able to use trail system). Causes such as this often fail due to A Few Bad Apples, & over Liability issues !! One solution if your measure fails, is Liability waivers.
You 3 cant get this done alone, unit the... Buggiers, 4 wheeler groups, snowmobilers, dirt bikers, even the horsey crowd, often even the hikers share some of the opinions you need.