yah thats one problem with the dodges they are loud the new ones are a little quieter but still then new ford are so queit we were sitting at the store and one pulled up next 2 us and there was and expiditon next ot us we herd that over the new ford ah and it was a diesel _________________ 06 joyner 250 sand viper,red metallic..blue clutch spring 17 gram sliders